Does ESX(i) 5.0 work on up board?
E van der Pol
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I doubt it. Atom does not implement the VT-x instruction set afaik
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on the intel page they say it is on it, or its the wrong processor?!
http://ark.intel.com/nl/products/93361/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8350-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-1_92-GHz
at the shop specs it says:
x5-Z8350
http://up-shop.org/up-boards/44-up-board-4gb-ram-64-gb-emmc.html -
I am surprised, best news of the day!
(If the board ever arrives) -
here it says x5-8300:
http://www.up-board.org/kickstarter/move-up-to-stretch-goal/
but it also supports intel vt-x:
http://ark.intel.com/nl/products/93361/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8300-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-1_92-GHz -
As stated by AlingWu on https://up-community.org/forum/general-discussion/112-intel-ends-with-atom, they initially started with Z8300 and switches to Z8350 when Z8300 was announced EOL.
What I personally don't understand is that the Intel ARK for the Z8350 mentions a memory limit of 2GB while there are up-board variants of up to 4GB available ... -
ElieDeBrauwer is correct.
Please refer to the official updated documentation page for the hardware specifications:
https://up-community.org/wiki/Hardware_Specification#UP_Board_hardware_specification -
when Intel released the CPU they did not test and validate z8300/8350 with 4GB RAM but we did it.
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Windows 10 needs VT-x (or even Second Level Address Translation or Extended Page Tables I believe) for Virtualization based security.
It's not a requirement to run Windows 10, but in fact it kind of is anyway in the sense that Microsoft's vision is to have it on every single device, Intel listened - starting already a few years ago - and put it on about every chip they make.
That's why if you want security, you laugh at Tim Crook the whole Apple vs FBI soap and buy Wintel and run Windows 10. -
This thread is getting off topic.
So VT-x is there but does anybody know if ESXi runs on UP or not ?
At least I would of course prefer latest and greatest version 6.0 SP_something. -
On a board this new, if you cannot verify the specs by searching ark and the requirements of ESX, I guess you'll just have to try.
Be sure to post back here when you are sure it does or does not work.
I'm pretty sure if anything works it's likely the newest version will, unless it introduces additional hardware requirements. -
I tried with a custom ESXi 6.0 SP2 install ISO with RealTek NIC drivers installed.
Installer starts fine but when it comes time to load the kernel it just hangs.
So it's a no go for now. I doubt very much vmWare will put too much effort on this range of CPUs. But one never knows. -
There was a question whether Windows Server works on UP.
Don't think anyone has tried NanoServer yet, you could try to download preview release TP5 and run Hyper-V in 128MB of memory, then see how many NanoServers you can run in VM's on top of that. It's probably not a big difference in how bare-metal NanoServer is compared to ESX? -
https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003661
here you can see specs for esx
i know that 5.0 runs on 4gb ram, 6.0 won't run on 4gb ram, tested on pc -
The CPU won't be the problem for ESXi, I've seen some blogpost that it could work, but memory and perhaps networking and storage could be an issue.
You could try vSphere 5.x this require less memory than vSphere 6, but again drivers could be a problem.
Did you check the vmkernel log at boot? pressing ALT+F12 will display the latest lines of the vmkernel.log, perhaps you could see what going wrong during boot.
But just a quick question? If you could get ESXi running on the UP what's the point of that, ESX needs almost all the memory so theres on room for VM's
Windows Server 2016 TP5 works, I had running a couple of containers on it, it's not super fast but it's okay.
NanoServer would be cool, if I can find some time I will take a look at it. -
Thought i might add my own two cents... You could try pxe install as well or even pxe live boot straight into esxi5.5, but 6 definitely isnt going to boot on the board.
The other potential issue is the 8111g network adapter which is known to be quite a pain in esxi 5.5
usb 3 support for esxi 5.5 is also a bit spotty, but it is there. -
I thought that I had read somewhere, that the UP board won't support PXE boot :-(
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i succeeded installing and running esxi 6.0 on the up board. This thread seemed to go a bit offtopic, so i will post my results here: https://up-community.org/forum/public-othersw/728-can-this-run-vmware-esxi#2665
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Hi all,
Here you have a first PXE boot tutorial for Linux on UP platforms:
