mipi-csi camera

GilmarGilmar New Member Posts: 18
hi,

does up-board shop has a mipi-csi camera for their board? or
does the raspberry pi mipi-csi camera can be use with up-board? what mipi-csi camera available online i can use for up-board?

also, does up-board website provides tutorial/instructions on how to interface, communicate with mipi-csi camera? if not, where is the best place for it?

thanks

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  • GilmarGilmar New Member Posts: 18
    Looking into raspberry pi csi pinouts the up-board csi pinouts looks different, this means I can't use the raspberry pi csi camera with up-board.

    Can someone confirm this?
    What csi camera can we use with up-board?
    Up-board shop don't have camera, where can we buy a piece of it?
  • Javier ArteagaJavier Arteaga Emutex Posts: 163 mod
    Hi gilmar:

    I can confirm the UP doesn't necessarily support RPi-compatible CSI cameras. There was some previous discussion in this thread:
    https://up-community.org/forum/general-discussion/79-camera#327
    Unfortunately I'm still unable to provide specifics on the camera that will be supported. I'll bring this topic up again with the relevant people.

    Apologies for the delay here.
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    Hi all,

    we are discussing with some camera vendors.
    The problem is that most of the CSI cameras certified by Intel have huge minimum order quantity ( 20.000 pcs ).
    We are trying to find a solution.
    We keep you posted

    Fabrizio
  • AAEONAAEON AAEON Posts: 22 mod
    Hi,
    Sorry, may I know where is the MIPI CSI interface? I couldn't find it on the the 40 pins, and also the UP board has no CN5!
    please advise
    Regards
  • Chris AlvaradoChris Alvarado New Member Posts: 1
    Any updates on supported MIPI-CSI cameras?

    Thanks.
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    hi Cra-gb,

    We have good and bad news.
    good news : we were capable to drive a camera ( which had reasonable minimun order quantity ) and make it work quite well ( the problem we encountered was instability with frequent crashes but we solved it)
    bad news : that camera is phased out and its not possible to find anymore on the market
    Next step : look for another camera
    We don't give up but it's more difficult than expected
    Stay tuned
    Cheers
  • GilmarGilmar New Member Posts: 18
    Do you support these cameras found here CSI-2_MIPI_Modules ?
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016
    Hi
    Is there any information about the MIPI CSI connector pin names?
    Does it support MIPI 4 lanes?

    Thanks.
  • Elie De BrauwerElie De Brauwer New Member Posts: 35
    See mipi_csi.png which comes from the connectors description pdf ( connector description ), it shows that CN32 (which is the MIPI CSI Connector) only has two data-pairs (MCSI_1_DATA0_DN and DP and MCSI_1_DATA1_DN and DP) meaning it only support MIPI CSI-2.
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    Hi Elie

    thanks for your help.
    You are much quicker than us !

    Hi all,

    In attachment the schematic of the MIPI circuit.
    Cheers
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hi Elie and Del Maffeo,
    Thank you so much!
    Now I am clear about MIPI I/F.
    I am interesting in MIPI camera application.
    I will start with this board but I am looking for 4 lane support board.
    Thanks,
    DC Kim
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hello Del Maffeo,
    Do you have calibration tool for MIPI cameras?
    If you have it, I guess it comes from intel..
    Is it easy to calibrate specific MIPI camera module for this board?
    If there's possibility, I would like to calibrate a MIPI camera module.
    What is the best way to do it?

    Regards
    DC Kim.
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    Hi DC,

    unfortunately we don't have a tool that we can share because it comes from Intel.
    And we were able to drive a specific camera from Chicony.
    In attachment the pictures.

    We are trying to identify an available camera ( and cost effective ) but it's really tough..

    Cheers
  • AAEONAAEON AAEON Posts: 22 mod
    Hi,

    below the MIPI CSI circuit.




    brochure: www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/FH35Cbrochure.PDF
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hi Fab,
    For the camera calibration tool, Would you tell me the tool name?

    Regards
    DC Kim
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    Hi,

    the procedure is complicated and needs the camera manufacturer support and Intel.
    We only use predefined value that Intel provides for that specific Chicony Camera sensor set in BIOS.
    Then use Intel provided driver to test it and we modify them with Intel support

    If different settings are needed, either user could be able to set directly from OS, or provide to us to integrate into the BIOS ( we cannot give the tool to modify the BIOS source code ). But this is a special procedure that has never been used because of the difficulties to get the support and setting information from Intel/Camera vendors.

    Regards
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hi Fab,
    Yes. It is complex and is impossible to general users.
    For us, camera module maker is our customer and their help is no problem.
    I would like to discuss about board support and ODM.
    Here's my e-mail. Pls contact me.
    [email protected]

    Regards
    DC Kim
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hi
    I found another version of Up board which seems old version.
    It support MIPI 4 lane.. and simillar CPU.
    http://files.linuxgizmos.com/aaeon_up_detail.jpg
    Is it available in AAEON?

    Regards
    DC Kim
  • FabrizioFabrizio AAEON Posts: 123 mod
    Hi Kim

    no, that version is not anymore available. It was the previous one.

    If you want to share your ODM project, please write a mail to [email protected] and please put in the object "UP ODM Project - CSI"

    Thanks !
  • Dongchoon KimDongchoon Kim New Member Posts: 9
    Hello Fab,
    I have a question about camera module cal and interface.
    You said " Then use Intel provided driver to test it and we modify them with Intel support" in last reply.
    I understand intel must help something to use new sensor.
    Does Intel supply new compiled driver for every camera sensors?
    Or text files as like ini file..
    Because I would like to know whether it is possible or not if we do ODM project.

    Regards
    DC Kim.
  • AlingAling Administrator, AAEON, UP reseller Posts: 522 admin
    Hi Kim,
    Intel will not qualify any new devices. In Intel's standard process, they will qualify a few accessories to demonstrate their product capability. After that all the supplier design their products according to Intel's spec. Intel will only support when it comes to Intel's bug.
    I just guide you with our Asian sales team, we can discuss more details in emails. thanks!
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