mipi-csi camera

Gilmar

hi,

does up-board shop has a mipi-csi camera for their board? or
does the raspberry pi mipi-csi camera can be use with up-board? what mipi-csi camera available online i can use for up-board?

also, does up-board website provides tutorial/instructions on how to interface, communicate with mipi-csi camera? if not, where is the best place for it?

thanks

Gilmar

Looking into raspberry pi csi pinouts the up-board csi pinouts looks different, this means I can't use the raspberry pi csi camera with up-board.

Can someone confirm this?
What csi camera can we use with up-board?
Up-board shop don't have camera, where can we buy a piece of it?

Javier Arteaga

Hi gilmar:

I can confirm the UP doesn't necessarily support RPi-compatible CSI cameras. There was some previous discussion in this thread:
https://up-community.org/forum/general-discussion/79-camera#327
Unfortunately I'm still unable to provide specifics on the camera that will be supported. I'll bring this topic up again with the relevant people.

Apologies for the delay here.

Fabrizio

Hi all,

we are discussing with some camera vendors.
The problem is that most of the CSI cameras certified by Intel have huge minimum order quantity ( 20.000 pcs ).
We are trying to find a solution.
We keep you posted

Fabrizio

[Deleted User]

Hi,
Sorry, may I know where is the MIPI CSI interface? I couldn't find it on the the 40 pins, and also the UP board has no CN5!
please advise
Regards

Chris Alvarado

Any updates on supported MIPI-CSI cameras?

Thanks.

Fabrizio

hi Cra-gb,

We have good and bad news.
good news : we were capable to drive a camera ( which had reasonable minimun order quantity ) and make it work quite well ( the problem we encountered was instability with frequent crashes but we solved it)
bad news : that camera is phased out and its not possible to find anymore on the market
Next step : look for another camera
We don't give up but it's more difficult than expected
Stay tuned
Cheers

Gilmar

Do you support these cameras found here CSI-2_MIPI_Modules ?

Dongchoon Kim

Hi
Is there any information about the MIPI CSI connector pin names?
Does it support MIPI 4 lanes?

Thanks.

Elie De Brauwer

See mipi_csi.png which comes from the connectors description pdf ( connector description ), it shows that CN32 (which is the MIPI CSI Connector) only has two data-pairs (MCSI_1_DATA0_DN and DP and MCSI_1_DATA1_DN and DP) meaning it only support MIPI CSI-2.

Fabrizio

Hi Elie

thanks for your help.
You are much quicker than us !

Hi all,

In attachment the schematic of the MIPI circuit.
Cheers

Dongchoon Kim

Hi Elie and Del Maffeo,
Thank you so much!
Now I am clear about MIPI I/F.
I am interesting in MIPI camera application.
I will start with this board but I am looking for 4 lane support board.
Thanks,
DC Kim

Dongchoon Kim

Hello Del Maffeo,
Do you have calibration tool for MIPI cameras?
If you have it, I guess it comes from intel..
Is it easy to calibrate specific MIPI camera module for this board?
If there's possibility, I would like to calibrate a MIPI camera module.
What is the best way to do it?

Regards
DC Kim.

Fabrizio

Hi DC,

unfortunately we don't have a tool that we can share because it comes from Intel.
And we were able to drive a specific camera from Chicony.
In attachment the pictures.

We are trying to identify an available camera ( and cost effective ) but it's really tough..

Cheers

[Deleted User]

Hi,

below the MIPI CSI circuit.




brochure: www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/FH35Cbrochure.PDF

Dongchoon Kim

Hi Fab,
For the camera calibration tool, Would you tell me the tool name?

Regards
DC Kim

Fabrizio

Hi,

the procedure is complicated and needs the camera manufacturer support and Intel.
We only use predefined value that Intel provides for that specific Chicony Camera sensor set in BIOS.
Then use Intel provided driver to test it and we modify them with Intel support

If different settings are needed, either user could be able to set directly from OS, or provide to us to integrate into the BIOS ( we cannot give the tool to modify the BIOS source code ). But this is a special procedure that has never been used because of the difficulties to get the support and setting information from Intel/Camera vendors.

Regards

Dongchoon Kim

Hi Fab,
Yes. It is complex and is impossible to general users.
For us, camera module maker is our customer and their help is no problem.
I would like to discuss about board support and ODM.
Here's my e-mail. Pls contact me.
dckimyj@gmail.com.

Regards
DC Kim

Dongchoon Kim

Hi
I found another version of Up board which seems old version.
It support MIPI 4 lane.. and simillar CPU.
http://files.linuxgizmos.com/aaeon_up_detail.jpg
Is it available in AAEON?

Regards
DC Kim

Fabrizio

Hi Kim

no, that version is not anymore available. It was the previous one.

If you want to share your ODM project, please write a mail to info@up-board.org and please put in the object "UP ODM Project - CSI"

Thanks !

Dongchoon Kim

Hello Fab,
I have a question about camera module cal and interface.
You said " Then use Intel provided driver to test it and we modify them with Intel support" in last reply.
I understand intel must help something to use new sensor.
Does Intel supply new compiled driver for every camera sensors?
Or text files as like ini file..
Because I would like to know whether it is possible or not if we do ODM project.

Regards
DC Kim.

Aling

Hi Kim,
Intel will not qualify any new devices. In Intel's standard process, they will qualify a few accessories to demonstrate their product capability. After that all the supplier design their products according to Intel's spec. Intel will only support when it comes to Intel's bug.
I just guide you with our Asian sales team, we can discuss more details in emails. thanks!